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[Ballydehob, Co. Cork]
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| Summary: | A group of men and boys, with two donkeys and carts can be seen posing for the camera, with the houses of Ballydehob village visible behind them. |
| In collection: | Fergus O'Connor Collection |
| Format: | Photo |
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[Between circa 1899-1910]
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| Notes: | Inscription on plate reads 'Ballydehob village, looking for the east, Co. Cork'. Original date range for this photograph was between 1890 and 1915. Research by our Flickr Commons users established a date between 1899 and 1910. Additional information about this photograph is available on the National Library of Ireland's Flickr Commons photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/8746216317 Fergus O'Connor was a Dublin publisher, who published Sean O'Casey's early writings and produced nationalist postcards and related material. Following the Easter Rising he was imprisoned in Lewes prison. Physical description: 1 glass plate negative ; 17 x 22 cm. more |
Love this line up of men, boys, donkeys and dog outside Ballydehob in Co. Cork!
The dog owner is absolutely ensuring that his dog is recorded for posterity by holding the dog immobile. Amazingly Donkey #1 is also holding his pose perfectly face on to the camera, while Donkey #2 is adamant that his best side is captured.
And what's going on with the boy at extreme right - singing? reciting? yawning?
Date: Circa 1899-1910 (thanks derangedlemur and Tin of beans)
NLI Ref.: OCO 347
Tags:
Ballydehob, Cork, Ireland, Munster, Béal an Dá Chab, Village, Houses, Shops, Bridge, Caps, Barefoot, Donkeys, Carts, Dog, Greenhouse, Moustaches, Terrier, Telephone Wires, Fergus O'Connor, Fergus O'Connor Collection, Glass Negative, Swantonstown, National Library of Ireland, 19th Century
Comments
DannyM8
It looks like the corner has been re sited since this picture.
Posted: 17.05.2013
heady school
Boy on right is just doing that West Cork thing of looking at you like you're a blow-in.
Posted: 17.05.2013
DannyM8
Its the rarer spotted dog!!!
Posted: 17.05.2013
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@79549245@N06 And there's going to be another one next week! With all these dogs, I am really spoiling you...
Posted: 17.05.2013
derangedlemur
You've a couple of houses on the right that are there today but aren't there on the 1899 25", so there's your earliest date.
Posted: 17.05.2013
DannyM8
@nlireland I see in the catalog that this photo has the new viewer installed / attached.
Posted: 17.05.2013
derangedlemur
@nlireland I'd have said 1899 - 1915, myself. The houses are in this picture and are still there now, but weren't there in 1899.
Posted: 17.05.2013
DannyM8
@nlireland @8468254@N02 Yet the following photo is next in the numbering system and dated 1908!! ??
@nlireland/7465386310
edit - one of my all time favorites....
edit 2 - Carol I see that you were surprised by the location as it was in with photos of Bantry, so catalog chronology may not be 100%
Posted: 17.05.2013
derangedlemur
The telegraph office is mentioned as far back as 1875, so that's no help.
Posted: 17.05.2013
DannyM8
@8468254@N02 I see, the @nlireland "Thanks for the date. So now we're down to 1890-1899" confused me. Young Miss Carol may still be in holiday mode!! That said, I am very happy shes back and posting dogs.
Posted: 17.05.2013
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
Mea Culpa! :( @79549245@N06
Was distracted by amusing colleague here in the garret of Library Towers - won't let it happen again!
So, thanks to @8468254@N02 the date is now 1899-1915.
Though, I'd be cautious about assuming 1908 from the glass negative numbers... (as @79549245@N06 notes above we can't rely on catalogue chronology)
Posted: 17.05.2013
Swordscookie
That young lad on the extreme right is too lazy to take the peak of his cap out of his eyes so he's tilting his head back so the photographer can see all of his face!
Posted: 17.05.2013
DannyM8
@nlireland I forgive you. As an aside I have been looking at SECRETS OF THE IRISH LANDSCAPE on the RTE player, wherin they pay great attention to an ex colleague of yours a Mr Robert Lloyd Praeger and his book "The Way that I went".
Very interesting documentary - I would recommend it.
Posted: 17.05.2013
O Mac
The 1901 census shows that the shop with the five dormers was run by a
Robert Wolfe. The 1911 census has no mention of any Wolfes living in Ballydehob. One could then speculate that the above photograph pre-dates 1911..
Wolfe's shop today. My Beautiful Launderette
Posted: 17.05.2013
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@91549360@N03 Excellent, thank you!
Did find one Wolfe in 1911 - Hester, 67, blind and a boarder with the Roycrofts...
Posted: 17.05.2013
known order
That's a really great shot. Lots of interest in the foreground and a wonderful backdrop.
Posted: 17.05.2013
O Mac
@nlireland I saw that...but she is listed as having been a farmer out in Stouke which is a townland about 1Km out the Schull road.
Posted: 17.05.2013
Niall McAuley
Here is Elizabeth Wolfe and her daughter Christine/Christina in 1911. She is a widow.
Posted: 17.05.2013
O Mac
@gnmcauley Same as that. There seems to have been an exodus from Ballydehob itself after 1901. Maybe the shop retained the name, and you're right thinking, it was managed by family from outside the parish. The House and Buildings return for 1901 show that Robert S Wolfe owned 14 of the 32 building listed in Ballydehob town. Looks like Ballydehob could well have been called Wolfetown.
Posted: 17.05.2013
O Mac
The 1911 census Building Return shows that Wolfes shop, House #22, was by then a public house and occupied by a Jane Kearney. So photo most likely pre 1911. Robert Wolfe is not listed as being landlord of any property in Ballydehob in 1911. Strange?
Posted: 17.05.2013
Niall McAuley
@91549360@N03 It's not strange - he was dead.
The Elizabeth Wolfe I linked above was his widow.
Posted: 17.05.2013
Inverarra
Wolfes AND a dog.
Posted: 18.05.2013
BearaBoy
A great photo. And excellent detective work to match. Added to my Faves.
Posted: 18.05.2013
O Mac
From the Gardeners Chronicle JANUARY 2, 1904
John Atkins & Co. ” The above-named company has been registered with a capital of
£16,000, in £1 shares, for the purpose of acquiring as a going concern and carrying on the business of seed merchants and agricultural implements now carried on by John Atkins & Co. and Joseph Wolfe, in the city and counties of Cork and Kerry, under the style of John Atkins & Co. The first directors are John Atkins, merchant, Dunmanway, Co. Cork, and Joseph Wolfe, Douglas Road, Cork. Registered office : 6, Camden Quay,
The signatories to the articles are :
J. Atkins, merchant, Cork
J.Wolfe, merchant, Cork
Elizabeth Wolfe, married woman, Cork
W. Wolfe, merchant, Ichull
R. Wolfe, merchant, Ballydehob
J. B. Atkins, merchant, Dumanway ...
W. H. Atkins, merchant, Cork
Atkins are run by Wolfes today.
So maybe photo taken closer to 1904?
Posted: 18.05.2013
Silensol
Ballydehob was previously known as Swantonstown
Posted: 20.05.2013
Silensol
From Ballydehob website "The 17th century saw an influx of settlers mainly from England, but a significant number were also Protestants (Huguenots) fleeing persecution in Catholic France. The Swantons from Norfolk became the most prominent family in the locality and by the late 18th century they had succeeded in changing the name of Ballydehob to Swanton’s Town. (The last known use of the name Swanton’s Town was in the census of 1821)."
Posted: 20.05.2013
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@91549360@N03 Really excellent find! So, name over the door would have been Atkins from very early 1904 then? Or might they have kept the familiar name for a bit longer? And what amazing longevity for the Wolfes within Atkins!
I'm changing this one to 1899-1904, and I'll try to dig out our Almanacs for Cork City and County tomorrow. Hopefully Ballydehob features...
Posted: 20.05.2013
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@silensol Very interesting, thank you! And I found an article on the Swantons from the archives of the Southern Star newspaper too...
Posted: 20.05.2013
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
Slight spanner in dating work! I checked through a number of Cork City and County Almanacs, and Wolfe (the Wolves) appears right up until 1910 in the list of Shopkeepers, etc. in Ballydehob:
Wolfe & Co., general merchants and posting establishment
Posted: 21.05.2013
TEXASJOHN
Very nice!
Posted: 05.05.2014
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
I have just added this photo to our 50,000+ Views Album
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/sets/72157651136879037/]
Posted: 31.03.2015
